Which government he might be talking about 🤔

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Which government he might be talking about 🤔

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To be fair, US spending money on weapons isn’t the reason you don’t have the social services the rest of us have.

It’s due to malice and corruption.

Remember, you’re paying (in both Tax contributions AND private insurance) DOUBLE the amount for your not public, not universal healthcare than the rest of us do.

I swear the whole ‘*if we didn’t make bombs we could afford healthcare’ and the conservative obverse of ‘if we weren’t paying for NATO we could afford healthcare*’ dual shticks are designed to keep you from actually questioning why the hell you’re paying DOUBLE what everyone else does on Healthcare for less service.

From my POV, the “if we didnt spend so much on military we could have healthcare” argument boils down to someone holding 2 opinions and presenting it as 1.

Opinion 1: War is bad, we should spend less money on the military and stop creating new wars

Opinion 2: Healthcare should be government subsidized (Universal Healthcare). If we are already anti-war, let’s put the savings from not doing war into healthcare.

I understand your point completely though. Most Americans are paying more than their fair share, while the oligarchy clan pays less than one of us at the bottom. We (the 99%) should be able to get healthcare by taxing appropriately and getting rid of the corruption at the top. It shouldnt be tied to military spending.

I think what you’re saying is correct. It “widens the lens” of the issues out to the system being corrupt which is completely true. I dont think most people have faith we can fix the system (at least within the next 2-6 years), so we are coping with smaller thoughts of just having the option to be anti war and pro UHC.

This way you’ll lose support of those people who do not think war is bad.

We are already spending too much for healthcare and should switch to public healthcare even just to decrease our spending seems an argument that the vast majority of people can agree with, regardless of their ideas on other topics.



It definitely is possible for a country to have expensive explodey toys and proper healthcare, food and housing, if the system was public, with minimal corruption and wealth appropriately taxed to fund it…

I bring up the argument “we could fund x instead of $y on military” because I think it helps give people a sense of the scale of the huge cost of war. Trump is asking for $200 billion from Congress for his Middle East excursion (so far), that amount can more than eliminate hunger and homelessness.



Yeah, that comment hit me in the nuts too.

The US is about to hit 20 years of the federal minimum wage being $7 an hour and change. 2/3 of the US states still adhere to it as their standard, and several states have laws against local municipalities enacting their own local wage laws.

Meanwhile the war budget (and let’s be honest, calling it a ‘defense’ budget is bullshit) has increased by a few percentage points every single year since 2001.

The poverty here is by design, same as it’s always been.


Bless his heart. His self awareness was surgically removed when he was a baby.

No, definitely don’t bless his heart



“Do you have an irony deficiency?"- Joseph in the Handmaid’s Tale


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EVERY single republican “argument:”


“Iran is run by theocratic psychopaths who only understand the language of violence!”

And they marry children instead of just molesting them like an upstanding Christian!

Oh no Americans marry their children too.

Between 2000 and 2021, some 315,000 minorswere legally married in the United States.[23] The vast majority of child marriages (some 86%) were between a minor girl and an adult man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

Uh, I believe the term is “underage women” not children or girls or minors. /s



Child marriage is legal in most US states.

…but it’s okay to rape them though….crazy F%$KS!

And wouldn’t you know it? The same states where child marriage is legal are also states where marital rape is treated as legally distinct from non-marital rape. In Iowa, for example, subsection (2) of article 709.4 Sexual abuse in third degree, excludes sexual acts committed by adults with children as young as 12, provided the parties are “cohabiting as husband and wife.”

God damn, not even the Vatican has laws like that now. Their age of consent went from 12 to 18 recently. I believe the marriage exception got raised to 14, which is still kind of wild, but not Iowa levels. Many of those laws are in place for, and exceptional to, accomodating marriages that occured in a culture where it is acceptable but the marriage is obviously no longer in that country/culture.

For those that consider marriage “a thing” these laws are intended to balance the respect of marriage and respect the immaturity of a young mind and body. For those, like me, that recognise there is literally no purpose for marriage, they’re entirely insane laws to go that low.




The Venn diagram of the states where you can marry a child and those where Trump won is a circle. 




Every accusation a confession.


The Christian right?



This is nonsense.

Potatoes have an INCREDIBLE amount of self-awareness for something without a nervous system.

Anything with that many eyes is definitely self-aware!

Bloodborne vibes.




never attribute to stupidity what can be adequately explained by malice.

*malice **stupidity



No, he just doesn’t count you as people.

I seriously doubt he considers Iranian people people either, maybe he’s talking about rich Iranians? Maybe Iran isn’t as good at pandering to the wealthy as the US is?



These are truly the times when the USA citizens should learn some tricks of government management from the France.

You mean they should let somebody crown himself as emperor and start a land war in Asia?

Never. Get involved in a land war in Asia!

Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line


Unless you’re already Asian, then fill your boots!



Yeah everyone here likes to bring up guillotines and the French Revolution, but it’s like none of them know what happened after.




Iran has healthcare, you don’t

lol I’m god



For anyone wanting verification.

While the quote is paraphrased but he absolutely said this.

https://www.c-span.org/program/news-conference/secretary-hegseth-and-joint-chiefs-chair-hold-briefing-amid-iran-conflict/675871

Timestamp 24:52 for anyone interested

I guess jen is bringing the drugs and the timestamps




Coulda funded the healthcare subsidies twice over for the 200b they’re asking for

Lol, that would have helped poor people. Can’t have that.


They could fund a public healthcare system twice over with the money the federal government is already spending providing piece meal health care through several inefficient programs. The war crime fund could solve the housing problem though.


Th government is using health care to force people to continue working. They know they can fund it. They also know if healthcare becomes free in the US, there are lots of people who can just stop working. If they made healthcare free I’d likely be able to stop working by age 45


But then why should people feel the need to join the army?


Easily cover half of the student loan forgiveness plans that would have been in place for 1-3 decades vs a few months of expenses…




Tbf it’s not exactly same as US. Iran is using those weapons in self-defense instead of invading random countries an ocean + sea + two geographic regions away.

Also, we’re apparently low on munitions, so we’re failing at even spending our money on that.

No wonder the Pentagon hasn’t passed an audit in a decade or something!

Actually the reason is the US uses 3M$ anti-missile missiles to intercept 20k$ drones. It was obvious from the start they would run out of them way while Iran would keep producing more of their drones (plus the ones they get from Russia).

It’s quite unbelievable they the US were so confident in their capabilities they didn’t bother to learn anything from the war in Ukraine, where swarms of cheap drones have replaced advanced but costly missiles for years now.

So the money may be genuinely used on weapons (and well, lobsters and steaks…). It’s just spent stupid.

Healthcare is too expensive!






I would love it if Iran asked Pete Hegseth to check with the 2006 Time Magazine person of the year with who does that to their country/citizens.


From the creator of:

“We’re fighting religious fanatics who seek a nuclear capability in order for some religious Armageddon”


Does he hear himself? Like I feel like we’re living in a sketch show.

no he only hears the call of nazis.



Does this dipshit realize he’ll never be safe in public again? Probably anywhere on Earth.

And I don’t think he gets lifetime tax payer funded Secret Service protection like America is prepared to give a felon rapist pedophile.



Tell me this motherfucker did not actually say this with a straight face

Edit: He did.




It’s mockery. He knows there are no consequences for him, these press briefings are just going through the motions.


islamic republic of iran, is largely ther because of USA/UK when they installed the shah.


They truly have reached the same point that Putin has, where you can invert any statement of theirs to get the actual truth


Why he gotta speak ill of the potato


Every time I see Hegseths face I am glad it is not Matthew Miller

He has the face of a potato.



“Do you have an irony deficiency?"- Joseph in The Handmaid’s Tale



Who is “he” and what did he say?

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